December Orlando Roadsters meets :) [Archive] (2024)

Neo Masamune

30th November 2003, 13:31

Well, it's that time again. New month. New post.

Let's get crackin'. Two choices for us for grubbage this Monday the 1st of December. Gator's Dockside, or Smokey Bonez. The reason I state these two is they're the ones that people seem to like the most all around (save for Gerald and Noel at Smokey Bonez, but they HAVE shown up there in the past....). The downside to Gator's is that huge Bithlo montster trucker group meeting there every monday as well, so we may want to consider the Gator's on the West side of Hwy 50 (West Colonial). It's in the shopping center on the corner of 50 and Good Holmes (my house!!!! :D ). Smokey Bonez has proven to us that we CAN sit a group of 12 next to each other.

So let's vote :D

-Neo

AutoXRacer

30th November 2003, 13:36

Humm... I don't know... :confused:

Smokey Bones...

No, no, Gators Dockside...

No, no, Smokey Bones...

AAAARRRRRRRR, I can't decide... :ohno:

;) :D

RoadsterGuy99

30th November 2003, 15:36

PAW467

30th November 2003, 17:02

Tony Orlando

30th November 2003, 23:53

According to dictionary.com:

restraint

n 1: the act of restraining 2: discipline in personal and social activities
Or if you prefer,

moderation

adj.
Being within reasonable limits; not excessive or extreme
Tonight's homework. :D

Dream2Race

1st December 2003, 00:54

PAW467

1st December 2003, 09:40

Originally posted by Tony Orlando:
According to dictionary.com:

restraint

n 1: the act of restraining 2: discipline in personal and social activities
Or if you prefer,

moderation

adj.
Being within reasonable limits; not excessive or extreme
Tonight's homework. :D ::::: snickers :::::

Neo Masamune

1st December 2003, 09:43

Hilarious, Tony. :) *giggles* LOL

I'm with Patrick. I vote Gator's, West Side location.

-Neo

Roadster'99's Girl

1st December 2003, 10:43

Aye Tony,

You should of brushed up on the "Power-Over" Techinque ;) Driving to work today, I see your "marks"... All I can say is :eek: WOW!

Grr... haha I posted under Andrea's... oh well

PAW467

1st December 2003, 12:29

Neo Masamune

1st December 2003, 12:42

I think I've secured some 15" Acura Integra LS Mesh style wheels that are already pre-painted black for $150 for all 4 with some "decent" tires (fairly new).

FINALLY :D Not the later style 10 spoke ones I REALLY wanted, but I've been looking for these as well for a long time. Hopefully the paint's really good on them.

-Neo

AutoXRacer

1st December 2003, 12:52

You're planning to install Honda wheels on a Mazda Miata!!? :eek:
eeeewwwww :ohno: ....

Traitor!!!! :mad: ;)

How much they weigh? :confused:

:p

PAW467

1st December 2003, 13:00

PAW467

1st December 2003, 13:02

Neo Masamune

1st December 2003, 14:11

Hrmm...may not do these wheels after all....I'm going to have to research some more. Miata wheels are hub-Centric...Honda wheels are Lug-Centric, though they still have a hub guide, but it's smaller than the Miata's hub. May not do well, but I've seen miatas with Acura wheels. They must use a ring.

I think I'm just gonna save up for my Sub Zero's.

What's the concensus for tonight, are we having a no-show night? So far, the only true votes are myself and Patrick for the West Side Gator's Dockside. Tony's up for whatever, and Gerald's undecided.

-Neo

Dream2Race

1st December 2003, 14:32

Originally posted by PAW467:
un-Fairbanks LOL! Good one Pat!

No show for me tonight. I'll be at work probably until 10. :mad:

Neo, another thing to look for with the wheels is the offset. Miata wheels have a 45mm offset, which is not a common spec in afermarket wheels. Switching to a heavier wheel with a drastically different offset can be murder on your bushings, and replacing bushings is not fun (nor cheap).

Anyone notice that we refer to everyone by their first name on this forum except Aaron? We always call him Neo. Just something I noticed...

Neo Masamune

1st December 2003, 15:02

Neo's been my nickname for well over 4 years now through various groups. :) So it's okay. Besides, I sign all my posts "-Neo" anyhow :D

-Neo

RoadsterGuy99

1st December 2003, 15:34

My, we are a chatty group this month... 16 posts already on day 1, when last month it took a whole week to get 16 posts!

Geez Gerald... You "PW"! :D

No show for me prolly tonight and next week, spent too much money over the weekend. :(

Tony- Make sure you do your homework tonight! ;)

AutoXRacer

1st December 2003, 15:40

Originally posted by Roadster'99:

Geez Gerald... You "PW"! :D
Whats "PW"? :confused:

Neo Masamune

1st December 2003, 17:17

Is tonight going to be a dud? Shall we call it off? I'm not feeling all that hot to begin with....

-Neo

PAW467

1st December 2003, 17:24

Neo Masamune

1st December 2003, 17:37

So that's the final vote eh? Heh, we're the only one's who really voted. I know Tony's comin'. Maybe Gerald, RIGHT Gerald? Dan? Herro?

-Neo

10AE 2344

1st December 2003, 18:31

I Can't make it tonight. Unfourtunately, next week either. :( I'll be studying both nights. Two tests tomorrow, and two final exams next Tues. :rolleyes:

Just remember kids,
"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb!" Darth Helmet

bkn

1st December 2003, 19:12

Neo Masamune

1st December 2003, 19:32

Yea, there's a meet tonight. For those of you late-comers who want to join us, here are the directions:

From East side of Town (and North, and South). Make your way to the East-West Expressway and get on, heading WESTBOUND. You're going to continue on till you pass I-4, John Young and a Toll Booth.....then after some more driving you'll come upon Kirkman and Hiawassee....then another Toll Booth for .50 cents. After that booth is your exit Good Homes Take a right at the Exit, and go to 50. Make a left. To your right is a shopping center. Inside that shopping center is Gator's Dockside. Look for Patrick, Tony, and myself.

-Neo

AutoXRacer

1st December 2003, 19:34

On what road is Gators on? Cross road?

Is it on HWY 50 and ...?

Thanks

Neo Masamune

1st December 2003, 19:50

I said Good Homes Road, dood. I shoulda said the shopping center is immediately to your right as soon as you turn left. Can't miss Gator's.

-Neo

Neo Masamune

2nd December 2003, 11:56

No show from Gerald last night, just Patrick, Neil and myself. Oh well.

I think the discussion Dan and I had should be put into effect. We've got to keep it in one place like we used to, and we've got to keep it central. Smokey Bonez is the restaraunt most loved by everybody. We've discovered we can in fact have a group of 12 seat in a single row just fine (two 6 seater booths). The pricing is just about right, there's always some sports to watch, and ample and safe parking.

-Neo

Maddog_fsu

2nd December 2003, 12:25

Anyone up for some drag racing at bithlo on Friday night 6:00 - 10:30 ? I'll be there at about 7 o-clock along with some rotaries and another miata. Our buddy Dan with the LS1-swapped RX-7 said he might go!!! He traps at about 128mph with a 100shot of n20!

Anyone interested?

-Matt

Neo Masamune

2nd December 2003, 12:43

Racing in a straight line at Bithlo? Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww wwwwwwwwwww....... :p :p :p

When they clean that place up some, and refurb the track, I may go back there again.

-Neo

PAW467

2nd December 2003, 13:28

Only way I'll go to Bithlo is something with lots of power and not a 4-banger :) No offcence!

Perhaps someday when I have some old Iron with the sum of 426 cubic inches :D Would I go to a drag strip again.

RoadsterGuy99

2nd December 2003, 13:59

anyone want to pool money and get that "Cheap NB" in the other post?? :D

we could make that "The Full-On Project Car" ;)

engine tear-down, rebuild... body tear-down, chassis re-assemble :) or just source it for parts! :D

RoadsterGuy99

2nd December 2003, 14:01

10AE 2344

2nd December 2003, 16:57

Originally posted by Roadster'99:
anyone want to pool money and get that "Cheap NB" in the other post?? :D
hehehe.
I got $5 on it. ;)

I think a beat old NA would be a much better candidate for a 'full-on project car'. You could find one for next to nothing, and next to nothing split between a few people is even next-er to nothing! :D If it ever gets finished fixing up, somebody told me there is this thing called 'spec miata'... :D Who's got some empty garage space?!?

Bithlo... hmmm. intriguing. Never been there. I might be interested... to spectate. Would be cool to see some Miatas run. <reverse psychology> Especially since everyone knows how slow Miatas are. Even with, say, a centrifugal supercharger, water injection, exhaust, headers, whatever, they're slow. If a Miata were to have all of said upgrades, I doubt it could even pull a 14.5. Now, it's probably possible with a roots blower, and surely with a twin-screw, but everybody knows that centrifugal superchargers can't make good power. Well, I take that back. There could be one guy out there with some crazy centrifugal setup, with 'magical electronic chips' and such, that could pull off a fast ET and shut me, along with everyone else who knows I'm right, up, but I doubt it. Until that comes (friday, 6pm) we'll just have to live with knowing how slow our cars are. :( :( :( </reverse psychology>

Neo Masamune

2nd December 2003, 17:27

Tony's will probably pull a 13.5 with good practice, give or take .5 seconds.....but that's at Gainsville.

At Bithlo, it'll be a 14.5 give or take .5 seconds.

-Neo

PAW467

2nd December 2003, 17:29

Who would like to get together for say like a X-Mas type party thingie.

Now, my place is way to small to host. So I was thinking along the lines of The Wundbar. This would be a RSVP deal and may cost a few dollars. The amount hasn't been tallied till I get showing of hands.

I need to know ASAP, so send me a PM and not a reply on the board. Ideal dates are 21-22 please let me know what dates will work.

Dream2Race

2nd December 2003, 18:53

Dan, Robert Palmblad ran a 12.9 recently with his Kenne Bell supercharger. IIRC, that's a centrifugal blower.

Tony's car would not run a 13.5. Not enough boost.

Maddog_fsu

2nd December 2003, 18:55

I'm not a big drag racing fan, but a lot of my friends are going to be there to race, and if i'm going to drive all the way from daytona to be there I'm going to have a little fun too!

FWIW Tony's car has quite a bit more power than I do, and I managed a 14.7 @ 94.2 mph there! It's not a great track but you can still have fun, just like I have fun at auto-x's i think are horrible. Anyways here is the whole slip:

R/T .628
60' 2.208
330 6.161
1/8 9.494
MPH 74.60
1000 12.342
1/4 14.744
MPH 94.20

And I backed it up with two 14.9's at close to 93mph... And that's with the stock header, stock cat, and stock exhaust!!! i do contribute a few ponies to the M2 head swap I just did, but other than the JRSC w/62.5mm pulley and '99 head the car is stock...

Maddog_fsu

2nd December 2003, 18:59

Originally posted by Dream2Race:
Dan, Robert Palmblad ran a 12.9 recently with his Kenne Bell supercharger. IIRC, that's a centrifugal blower.

Tony's car would not run a 13.5. Not enough boost. Yeah Bob ran against my friend's 3rd gen RX-7 on friday :D

That is NOT a centrifugal blower though :ohno: He is using an autorotor still! He loves that torque monster for auto-x, and he sure surprises a lot of people in a straight line too!

Badassian

2nd December 2003, 19:27

Originally posted by Neo Masamune:
Tony's will probably pull a 13.5 with good practice, give or take .5 seconds.....but that's at Gainsville.

At Bithlo, it'll be a 14.5 give or take .5 seconds.

-Neo Bithlo is bad, but its not that bad.

Stock SRT-4s have gotten 13.9s there, and I think the best time for a stock SRT-4 anywhere is 13.8. Just an example.

If front wheel drive cars on crappy street tires are pulling low 2 sec 60' times, it can't be all that bad.

10AE 2344

2nd December 2003, 19:28

Who would like to get together for say like a X-Mas type party thingie...Ideal dates are 21-22
I'll be out of town then.

Tony's car would not run a 13.5. Not enough boost. Agreed. I'll put a dollar on 14.2. :p

R/T .628
60' 2.208
330 6.161
1/8 9.494
MPH 74.60
1000 12.342
1/4 14.744
MPH 94.20 I'd settle for that. :D

Dan, Robert Palmblad ran a 12.9 recently with his Kenne Bell supercharger. IIRC, that's a centrifugal blower.
That is NOT a centrifugal blower though He is using an autorotor still! Ugh. Confusion abounds. I saw the thread when he ran the 12.9. I think I put a link to it in this thread. :D AFAIK, he's the fastest supercharged miata to date (first in the 12's). I hardly know the guy, but from what I've always heard/read, he's running a Kenne Bell supercharger, which is a twin screw (or just screw type, or lysholm, or whipple). Autorotors are also this type of supercharger, so maybe that is what he has. :confused:

BTW... was Palmblad's 12.9 at Bithlo?

Maddog_fsu

2nd December 2003, 19:58

I have personally seen Bob run 2 times in the 12's at bithlo... Yes the autorotor= twin screw, which is what i should have said so I wouldn't confuse anyone. I have seen consistant 13.9-14.3's out of stock srt4's out there, and these are often just kids with not a lot of experience.

FWIW the stock seq turbo'd RX-7 i'm talking about runs a consistant 1.8xx 60' time on his street tires. His best run that night was a 12.4

The LS1 powered RX-7 runs high 10's there with traps at about 128mph. Again street tires with about a 2.0 60' Gainesville is a much nicer track, but bithlo isn't that bad as previously noted. It's condition is mainly just used as an excuse for a slow run...

Tony Orlando

2nd December 2003, 21:37

Tony's car would not run a 13.5. Not enough boost. To quote Corky Bell :

While absolute boost pressure is important to power, it is not the sole measure. Bragging rights are not established by boost gauge readings; Quarter mile times and dynamometer readings are where the real story is. The power one can expect will depend completely on how well that boost is used. A low compression, 20 psi setup with no intercooling and lots of ignition retard will never come close to a well tuned 10 psi setup that uses all the right stuff. That being said, I'm not sure if 13.5 is realistic myself. I'd personally be happy with anything in the vicinity of 14, but having never run the 1/4, it will take many attempts, (or an experienced driver) to find out what my car is truly capable of.

Might be fun though......... :)

Oh, BTW... I think I found out what Mark is planning on doing to his car. Boo yah!! (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6324&item=2446213616) :p

[ 02. December 2003, 20:59: Message edited by: Tony Orlando ]

Dream2Race

2nd December 2003, 23:12

Neo Masamune

3rd December 2003, 10:47

I will admit, my slighly modified Celica GT-S, which pushes 160 WHP (mine est about 167-ish) managed to run a 14.6X at Bithlo, trapping at in the low 96 mph range. With enough visits, one can learn to launch right even at Bithlo, I suppose. RT's, which I'm quite proud of, were always in the extreme low .5's, with .5 being perfect.

Please note, when I said I would expect Tony to run around 13.5 + or - .5, his car pushes roughly the same power as an S2000, and is MUCH lighter. S2000's can pull 13.6's-13.9's all day at Bithlo. Tony's power delivery is much like an S2000, actually....so Tony, with practice, a 13.5 isn't out of reach.

-Neo

Of course, my statements above are in consideration that there's an experienced driver at the helm. Tony, it'll take some practice for sure.

RoadsterGuy99

3rd December 2003, 10:50

Neo Masamune

3rd December 2003, 17:14

Well this post died. Wake up kids.

-Neo

RoadsterGuy99

3rd December 2003, 17:30

yea... my newly found secret killed it... :ohno:

[edit]BTW - Anyone care to meet up and have a round? I need a drink :sad:

Neo Masamune

3rd December 2003, 17:42

Sure, I'm game to meet up tonight. Tony, Dan, Patrick? Let's all get together to make up for Monday's lack of a meet, eh? It's going to be nice out. Heck, I've got coins left over from Rockey's....wouldn't mind getting some cheap Amber Bock's out there tonight.

I'll call people when I get home this evening and settle in.

-Neo

Maddog_fsu

3rd December 2003, 19:40

RoadsterGuy99

3rd December 2003, 20:05

Originally posted by Maddog_fsu:
Neo: are you saying the GT-S has 160 whp stock? That's very impressive if it's true. What does it take to get more ponies out of them? should of read at the crank... wasn't it 170bhp?? :confused: Neo? Neo?? Where's OfficeMonkey!?

Yep! Give me a call! Rocky's sounds good, but I'm not a beer drinker... Something like Chilis where I can get Ulimate June Bugs or Mudslides! I need it!! :sad:

oyveychris

3rd December 2003, 20:25

Neo Masamune

3rd December 2003, 20:27

Just waitin' for my clothes to dry....then I can head outta here. I'll call people then. So Chili's then Rockey's?

-Neo

Neo Masamune

3rd December 2003, 20:35

Originally posted by Maddog_fsu:
Neo: are you saying the GT-S has 160 whp stock? That's very impressive if it's true. What does it take to get more ponies out of them? Yep, give or take a few ponies....I believe they were under-rated out of the factory. VERY well designed 6 speed tranny, etc to get the power to the ground.

Edgardo's rated over 170 WHP with only intake and axle back exhaust.

-Neo

RoadsterGuy99

3rd December 2003, 21:25

Originally posted by Neo Masamune:
VERY well designed 6 speed tranny, etc to get the power to the ground.Yep so well, that the shift fork squeeks a lot and you couldn't go from 1-2 or 2-1 ;) :D

Oh yea - tonight's postponed, Andrea's migraine is rampant :( yet, I still need a DRINK! :sad: - talked to Neo, is anyone up for tomorrow night?

Tony Orlando

3rd December 2003, 22:11

RB springs are now installed! I am no longer riding high. Car feels nice, too.

Yay.

10AE 2344

3rd December 2003, 23:50

Originally posted by Roadster'99:
...tonight's postponed... yet, I still need a DRINK! :sad: - talked to Neo, is anyone up for tomorrow night? ugh. i just got home from school. check mail (snail), grab beer, fall in front of computer, check forum. I was thinking I would have someone to meet up with for a minute there. :) oh well. :( I'm up for tomorrow though.

VERY well designed 6 speed tranny, etc to get the power to the ground. Yep so well, that the shift fork squeeks a lot and you couldn't go from 1-2 or 2-1 haha. ya, so well designed that a redline shift drops you out out of VVTLITEC. :p

RB springs are now installed! I am no longer riding high. Car feels nice, too.
cool. :D i guess that means you decided against the PS9. or PSS. or PMS. whatever. I'm going to sleep. After another beer.

Dream2Race

4th December 2003, 02:01

AutoXRacer

4th December 2003, 09:59

Anyone planning on going to bithlo?
Tony? Dan?

I might be interested in going... Don't know if I'll run though. I have a slow ass car.
Unless I can get to run against a Honda Civic, then they're toast... :D

Where are you guys planning to go tonight? Friday? :confused:

RoadsterGuy99

4th December 2003, 10:49

Neo Masamune

4th December 2003, 12:00

Hrmmmm....so what's it going to be? Tonight to hang out? Weather state's it's gonna have some evening showers plaguing us. Friday night's gonna have some rain, too, but it'll clear up. Not that it's gonna be much worry, since we're just goin' to Chili's and to Rockey's afterwards, right?

If we do this friday evening, probably a better chance for people to join up.

Gerald, sorry we're all getting on your case, but we just don't EVER see you, especially when you say you're gonna show. What happened on Monday? We were waiting around for ya...

-Neo

AutoXRacer

4th December 2003, 12:25

Sorry guys :( ,
I've been really busy with school trying to get my senior design finished up along with a few other projects being finalized; this is my last semester in school!!!

I had read the posts on Monday evening and it seemed like no one was going to show up, so I opted to do some school work instead...

I have a final today at 3:00pm... :ohno:

I was not sure on what you guys are doing since some are pondering Bithlo on Friday and the Chilis/Rockey's tonight... :confused:

AutoXRacer

4th December 2003, 12:28

Originally posted by Roadster'99:
Originally posted by AutoXRacerMiata:
Where are you guys planning to go tonight? Friday? :confused: WHY? :confused: are you planning on showing up? :confused: why don't you just READ the forum to find out. :rolleyes: Yeah, I don't want to hear it Mark :rolleyes: ...
You were MIA for how long??? :confused:

:p :D

RoadsterGuy99

4th December 2003, 13:03

PAW467

4th December 2003, 13:04

I have one thing to say.. I'm getting really tired of see'n this on the board that jo-blow is gonna show or not.

The polite thing to do is yes I'll show or no I can I have work. Ther rude thing is to say your coming and don't show.

So ya'll need to stop bitch'n at each other. I'm tired of reading this crap. :mad:

Dream2Race

4th December 2003, 14:54

Okay kids. Let's get it together here.

If you guys are still goin out tonight that's cool. That was the original idea. I'll stay tuned here to see if anything is goin on tomorrow night. :D

Neo Masamune

4th December 2003, 15:25

I'm up for any night, it's up to them. Mark, this is all for you, bud, it's your decision, alright?

-Neo

10AE 2344

4th December 2003, 16:03

Neo Masamune

4th December 2003, 17:51

Hey guys, we're going to be chillin' tonight, sometime after 8:00pm. Give a call to Mark or Tony if you wanna be chillin like villians with us, y0.

-Neo

10AE 2344

4th December 2003, 18:27

Tony Orlando

4th December 2003, 18:38

Neo Masamune

4th December 2003, 18:59

Shoosh Danny boy. You're just not down with this lingo, y0. :D :D :D

-Neo

AutoXRacer

4th December 2003, 19:01

Hey Dan, I am not going to my graduation.
So you can have my tickets.
I just don't know if I have any. I never requested any...

I'll check when I'll be on campus next time...

10AE 2344

4th December 2003, 20:07

10AE 2344

5th December 2003, 02:56

Neo Masamune

5th December 2003, 09:57

Dan, I used to crunch into gear from the 1-2 shift untill I told myself to stop pulling the shifter towards me, and to the rear of the car right down the center instead, so that took care of that. For such a short shifter, however, the 2-3 shift is a long and wide throw, and I often miss it under hard acceleration, often bouncing off the splitter between the 1st gear and 3rd gear gate.

To comment on the 6 speed Celica GT-S issue mentioned before....I managed to learn how to shift properly in it, and it took alot of concentration to get it right, to keep it in the VVTL-i range after 6200 rpms. Probably how I could eek a 14.6X run out of it. Edgardo has me beat in his old one though (Red S2000 owner now) with a 14.5X run. These were done on an awesome night with temps around 65 degrees.

-Neo

AutoXRacer

5th December 2003, 10:23

Dan, what kind of tranny oil are you using?
When I first bought my car, I was told the Miata tranny was one of the smoothest on the road; NOT!!!

I then flushed and refilled my tranny with Redline MTL and it became smooth as butter!!! No more gear crunching either...

I've read in many magazines that the 6 spd tranny is crap. :(
That the 5 spd is much better... And I wanted to do a 6 spd swap... Oh, well...

Oh, and its vitally important to press the clutch in fully, all the way to the floor...
I sometimes get too excited shifting between 1st and 2nd, I only press the clutch 3/4 of the way; then crunch...

I noticed the factory clutch engagement sucks too, I wish it were higher sometimes...

PhatMiata

5th December 2003, 10:29

Just in case you guyz are interested, you are more than welcome to come out! We are expecting at least 25-30 Miatas tonight! :eek:

http://forum.miata.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=37&t=000522#000010

PhatMiata
:rolleyes: :D :eek:

Dream2Race

5th December 2003, 11:25

Dream2Race

5th December 2003, 11:29

Dream2Race

5th December 2003, 11:30

RoadsterGuy99

5th December 2003, 12:30

Originally posted by Dream2Race:
So anything going on tonight? Did you guys go to Chili's last night? Actually it was TGIF's, and boy were the Ulitimates great! I needed those! :D I'm up for anything tonight, although after last, it'll be a cheapie night :(

Dan - I think Tony was planning on the PPF brace... , I'll trade you trannies! :D When do you want to do it?? ;)

[ 05. December 2003, 11:41: Message edited by: Roadster'99 ]

Neo Masamune

5th December 2003, 13:30

I'm up for anything tonight, guys, and actually, I want to head back up to Rockey's to get in some more practice on DanceMania2 there. :D Food'll have to be thin and cheap. Chili's would be fine, sure I can find something fairly healthy there. Anybody else up to join and then go to Rockey's afterwards?

-Neo

10AE 2344

5th December 2003, 17:28

RoadsterGuy99

5th December 2003, 17:56

swansonhomesllc

5th December 2003, 18:11

Maddog_fsu

5th December 2003, 18:31

Dream2Race

5th December 2003, 18:38

Dream2Race

5th December 2003, 18:40

10AE 2344

5th December 2003, 18:41

Swanson... Welcome man! I'd send an e-mail to Bob. He's the man in charge. :D
orlandomiatas(at)cfl.rr.com
There's a members only forum once you sign up that tells what's happening with the offical 'Orlando Miatas' club. They have monthly 'tech meets' where getting dirty is required. :p (not really) This thread is pretty much for the people who want to hang out more than once a month. Some here are club members, some aren't. We meet up every monday evening at random eating establishments to be decided upon here. Sometimes other nights in addition to mondays (tonight?).

Uh oh Patrick...looks like we got another white NBFL w/monsterflow & powerpulse... :p

[ 05. December 2003, 17:51: Message edited by: 10AE 2344 ]

Neo Masamune

5th December 2003, 20:01

Well, I'm gonna be home till somebody calls me with this evening's plans. People have my home number.

-Neo

Tony Orlando

5th December 2003, 20:25

I'm down tonight. Mandy's working 'til 10, and I have the next three days off work!!!! :eek: :D

Somebody call me. Neo, I have your old cell #, but not your home. Im at my Dad's, so I'm not logged on to AIM.

Peace.

Tony Orlando

5th December 2003, 21:10

BTW, Mazdaspeed oil cap is on. Bling bling, yo.

Now I'm just waiting for my midpipe to get here Monday. :D

Tony Orlando

5th December 2003, 21:30

AutoXRacer

6th December 2003, 09:58

Bling-bling... :rolleyes:

:p

[ 06. December 2003, 09:18: Message edited by: AutoXRacerMiata ]

Neo Masamune

6th December 2003, 12:34

If I see one more rolleyes....I'm gonna scream.

46 degrees this afternoon and sunny right now, what PERFECT weather to go out driving, eh? Meeting Mark at Gateway on Altamonte drive for lunch round 1:30 to 2:00 pm today, if anybody'd like to join up.

-Neo

AutoXRacer

6th December 2003, 13:05

Neo:
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

:p :D

AutoXRacer

6th December 2003, 13:07

RoadsterGuy99

6th December 2003, 13:16

y? and just be like every other forum?

geez, y do i even bother.... :ohno:

[ 06. December 2003, 12:25: Message edited by: Roadster'99 ]

10AE 2344

6th December 2003, 15:28

I must admit, I do get 'Graemlin Envy' when browsing other forums. Our rather limited selection means some of them get used quite frequently, and for more than one meaning.

eg. :rolleyes: <-- i'm being sarcastic, i'm frustrated, i can't believe we're discussing this again, i'm in the mood for some cheese, i'm gonna chop you up and put you in my freezer, etc.

AutoXRacer

6th December 2003, 15:33

Tony Orlando

6th December 2003, 18:22

kabel

6th December 2003, 19:20

Hi Guys,

The first day I have a chance to take out my miata in over a week … A monstrous F350 decided to make a U turn in front of me and his tire tagged my left door, qtr panel and wheel:mad: . I basically bounced off his tire; the only “damage” to his truck was a bunch of my red taint on his rubber. FHP said we had conflicting stories (I didn’t get the other drivers side story) and did not issue any tickets, was not my fault IMO. I called and made a claim with his insurance company. I am cursed. The last three cars I have bought (including the Miata), with in the first two months I have had an accident in them, no other accidents or tickets. I was actually on my way to sears to pick up a second set of jack stands, my intention was to bleed the brakes and clutch this weekend ... I may be too bummed to bother with that now. Thanks for listening guys. Maybe I’ll see you Monday night, if I am not too embarrassed to take the Miata out of the garage. :sad:

Tony Orlando

6th December 2003, 19:34

RoadsterGuy99

6th December 2003, 22:22

<rant>After reading a few posts/replies (in here and in other threads) and speaking of graemlins... you know, i sometimes wish we could use this (http://www.joshuapettit.com/graemlinlibrary/slap.gif), this (http://www.joshuapettit.com/graemlinlibrary/spank.gif), or this (http://www.joshuapettit.com/graemlinlibrary/tonofbricks.gif). This is great too. (http://www.joshuapettit.com/graemlinlibrary/moon.gif)</rant>

We're planning to go to IOA/US tomorrow, anyone up for it? Monday night meet for us is a maybe... What location will it be?

Tony Orlando

6th December 2003, 23:07

Neo Masamune

7th December 2003, 00:51

Monday's gotta be fairly cheap....like Frogger's in Oviedo cheap. That's the only good Frogger's there is. :( .35 wings x 15 = CHEAP. I'm running out of spending cash for this week.

Hey, if anybody wants to join up for The Last Samurai tomorrow afternoon, call me at home tomorrow morning. We're going round 3-4ish.

-Neo

AutoXRacer

7th December 2003, 09:18

Neo Masamune

7th December 2003, 11:48

You cheated, Calculator using fool. :D But yea, That's cheap.

-Neo

PAW467

7th December 2003, 12:30

Neo Masamune

7th December 2003, 13:45

Last Samurai today at 3:30 at Festival Bay theater. Meetin' up at 3:00pm with Jay and Kat, heading in soon after that.

-Neo

PAW467

7th December 2003, 14:02

Dream2Race

7th December 2003, 19:21

What's IOA/US?

Mark, those graemlins are hilarious! They'd be perfect for this forum sometimes.

Yahoo has some great animated gremlins for their email, including one who's turning a steering wheel and shifting.

Neo Masamune

7th December 2003, 21:31

There will probably not be a show from me for tommorrow's meet. I'm all funded out.

-Neo

AutoXRacer

7th December 2003, 21:34

Originally posted by Dream2Race:
What's IOA/US?
IOA = Islands of Adventure
US = Universal Studios

;)

Dream2Race

8th December 2003, 10:50

PAW467

8th December 2003, 10:51

RoadsterGuy99

8th December 2003, 13:13

Aye PAW! :D

What's up with the X-Mas gig??

PAW467

8th December 2003, 14:07

Only 2 people responded You and Pete. There will be no party :sad: :mad:

Too bad I was looking forward to doing one..

RoadsterGuy99

8th December 2003, 14:11

Originally posted by PAW467:
Only 2 people responded You and Pete. There will be no party :sad: :mad:

Too bad I was looking forward to doing one.. ARGH!! :mad: :sad:

Yep, THIS is the BEST Christmas eva! :(

Tony Orlando

8th December 2003, 14:11

PAW467

8th December 2003, 14:14

However, if any one would like to get together on say Friday next week. At The Wunder Bar.. let me know.. :D

Good German Beer and German food :)

PAW467

8th December 2003, 16:48

PAW467

8th December 2003, 16:51

I just read back Neo wants to go to Frogger in Oviedo :ohno: :rolleyes:

Were the hell is that dumb place again??

Neo Masamune

8th December 2003, 17:29

I posted after that, though...saying wherever it's decided I'm not going to make it tonight....I'm sick and out of spending money. Till next time, guys.

-Neo

PAW467

8th December 2003, 17:39

Ahh.. rightly so Neo. :p

In that case anyone care to meet me at Smokey Bones. Across from Fashon square mall?

RoadsterGuy99

8th December 2003, 18:00

kabel

8th December 2003, 18:35

I’m a no show tonight too. I just got off the phone with the insurance company of the driver who hit me this weekend, I don’t want to drive the Miata till the after the insurance adjuster has a look at it, plus I have to work late. Maybe later in the week or next Monday if all goes well.

kabel

bkn

8th December 2003, 19:10

Badassian

9th December 2003, 04:19

Originally posted by kabel:
Hi Guys,

The first day I have a chance to take out my miata in over a week … A monstrous F350 decided to make a U turn in front of me and his tire tagged my left door, qtr panel and wheel:mad: . I basically bounced off his tire; the only “damage” to his truck was a bunch of my red taint on his rubber. FHP said we had conflicting stories (I didn’t get the other drivers side story) and did not issue any tickets, was not my fault IMO. I called and made a claim with his insurance company. I am cursed. The last three cars I have bought (including the Miata), with in the first two months I have had an accident in them, no other accidents or tickets. I was actually on my way to sears to pick up a second set of jack stands, my intention was to bleed the brakes and clutch this weekend ... I may be too bummed to bother with that now. Thanks for listening guys. Maybe I’ll see you Monday night, if I am not too embarrassed to take the Miata out of the garage. :sad: I've had my 240 for about a month now and just had someone scrape it up in my apartment parking lot. Didn't even leave a note or anything. It didn't put me in a very good mood to go take my final either....

kabel

9th December 2003, 11:24

PAW467

9th December 2003, 11:27

So.. I'm thinking of going to the dark side. But, as much as I like the M62 and BR's setup. Being a gunnie pig I'm not too keen on being.. so I've come to find out froma reliable source that
VF Engineering has built and are selling kit's for Automatc Miata's :eek:

I got the chance to drive Tony's in the parking lot.. all I have to say is HOO HAA.

There will soon be another S/C.. Next year and it will be MINE! (evil laugh)

10AE 2344

9th December 2003, 14:50

Originally posted by PAW467 and edited by Dan ( :p ):
So... I'm thinking of going to the 'Dark Side', but, as much as I like the M62 and BR's setup, I'm not too keen on being a guinea pig. I've come to find out, from a reliable source, that VF Engineering has built, and are selling, kits for automatc Miatas! :eek:

I got the chance to drive Tony's in the parking lot... all I have to say is HOO HAA!

There will soon (next year) be another S/C, and it will be MINE! (evil laugh) Sweet dude! Seems like the tide is turning here in O-town. Superchargers and turbos will soon outnumber us 'slow folk'. :(

kabel

9th December 2003, 15:03

Tony, Patrick,

What made you decide on a S/C rather than turbo? Just curious, though it is a long way off for me I too am considering an S/C over a turbo mostly because it is a (should be a simple) bolt on mod.

kabel

RoadsterGuy99

9th December 2003, 15:45

NA for me :D

Hey Neo... you got snail mail that came to my house...

[ 09. December 2003, 14:57: Message edited by: Roadster'99 ]

Neo Masamune

9th December 2003, 16:33

Really?

-Neo

PAW467

9th December 2003, 17:30

Kabel,

Supercharged for me; reasion being is I have a Automatic. I didn't want to monkey around with a turbo system and have issues with major turbo lag that comes as a side effect of the automatic.

As far as supercharged, the Automatic can stay underboost quite abit longer and not suffer lag issues associated with turbo's. I really had my heart set on a BR M62 but I'm not crazy about being a gunnie pig. Theres someone that just got a VF kit put on their automatic miata and I'm waiting for more info on there set up.

Thats my reasioning for it.

Tony Orlando

9th December 2003, 19:33

Kabel,

Less money, no turbo lag, easier to diagnose problems, no extra injectors, kept my stock ECU, no re-wiring the car, no adding MAP sensors and no intercooling.

And a well designed SC kit can hang with a turbo any day of the week. I don't see the appeal of 'em. In Florida, anyway.

kabel

9th December 2003, 19:44

Good points on the S/C, Thanks.

I uploaded some Crash Pics:
http://miata.cardomain.com/memberpage/443334/5

kabel

Tony Orlando

9th December 2003, 19:56

Ugh, hurts to look at..... :sad:

I feel your pain, brother. I really do.

AutoXRacer

9th December 2003, 20:35

kabel

9th December 2003, 20:43

10AE 2344

9th December 2003, 21:13

Originally posted by Tony Orlando:

And a well designed SC kit can hang with a turbo any day of the week. I don't see the appeal of 'em. In Florida, anyway. Turbo appeal: I'm not partial to either, but it's only in the last year or two that so many good SC options have appeared. Before that, "supercharged Miata" meant Jackson and 150 rwhp. :( When FM2s were making > 230 rwhp, it really wasn't much of a choice.

The only reason SCs don't require all the gizmos for fueling is because they run less boost. Above a certain amount of boost (and fuel flow requirement) no software trickery (chip/powercard/etc.) is going to be sufficient. Same idea for intercooling. More boot means more heat created making it, and more need for an intercooler, water injection, etc. Same for cost. More boost (power), more money. :sad:

This all gets me thinking... I wonder if there is anything stopping you from using the powercard with a turbo. It would sure make a cheap setup. Actually, I guess that is how most turbo kits work, with fueling 'band aids'. I'm surprised there isn't a cheap, non-intercooled, turbo kit that uses such a device. With a small, quick spooling turbo, this would surely make the low-to-mid range SC buyer's decision a bit more difficult. Bring back the FM1? :D

(my shorty intake was a high school dropout)

[ 09. December 2003, 20:18: Message edited by: 10AE 2344 ]

Tony Orlando

9th December 2003, 21:56

Actually, boost doesn't equal heat.

When comparing a SC and turbo running equal amounts of boost, the turbo's intake charge air will be remarkably hotter. Why? The source of the air. A turbo is recycling hot exhaust gas into your engine, whereas a SC is drawing ambient, (or at worst, underhood) temperature air. You can even delve deeper into the thermal efficiency of the different SC types to further reduce intake temps. A centrifugal, (to pick one at random... :D ) is a much more thermally effiecient design than the roots or lysholm. Its method of compressing more air into the same space as opposed to blowing more air in the same amount of time creates less heat. I would "guess-timate" that a Centrifugal SC generating 10psi would heat the intake air as much as a turbo creating 5psi. That is why you almost never see a non-intercooled turbo kit. Putting exhaust back into the engine without cooling it is a recipe for disaster.

As far as the Powercard, it is basically a non-tuneable piggyback and is not "application specific". You can use it on anything up to about 8psi. It just reads A/F and timing, and adjusts when it sees a need. In theory, you could run my kit with it.

They do make the Greddy kits for NA's, (small, non-intercooled turbo.) The reason for no NB Greddy kit is the returnless fuel system in our cars. (Greddys use a rising rate Fuel pressure regulator in your return line to raise fuel pressure under boost.)

In theory; you could buy a Greddy kit for a late model NA (so the manifold would fit), plug in the powercard, and get a big-azz midpipe to reduce spoolup time, and you'd have your cheap NB turbo. In theory .

I should post this to the Power Mods forum so MarkP can tell me what an idiot I am. ;)

Racer46

9th December 2003, 22:52

Pressure = heat! That is how a diesel works. Increase the pressure and the temperature rises. When the temp. gets high enough the fuel lights off.

If you were able to take a reading on the output side of your supercharger you would find that the increase in temp. would be a couple of hundred degrees over ambient. This increase does not come from the mechanical friction of the compressor but from the compression of the air itself.

Turbos do not recycle hot gases back into the engine. The impellers are in separate housings. The proximity to each other is very close so I'm sure that there is heat transfer from the exhaust to the intake impeller.

I never took thermodynamics in college so all you engineers feel free to have at me. I've got my NOMEX on.

10AE 2344

9th December 2003, 23:22

I'll tell you what an idiot you are! That's what friends are for! :p

I hate to pull the physics card, but more boost does equal more heat. From basic thermodynamics (ideal gas law), P*V=n*R*T. Where P= pressure, V= volume, and T= temperature. Pressure and temp. have a direct 1:1 relationship. Increase one with everything else constant, the other increases. Now, this is IDEAL gas law. Compression is far from ideal in a SC/turbo, so the ratio is worse than 1:1, which means more heat for a given pressure increase. How far from ideal (or thermally efficent) the compression is, dictates how much more heat, than that required by the ideal gas law, will be added.

I have to disagree with you on the effiencies of SCs. Centrifugal is better than roots, but lysholm is better still. Google it!

I agree that turbos are meant to run very hot, so that is another source of heat not present with a supercharger. However, turbos don't recycle exhaust gas into the engine! :eek: That'd be like a HUGE EGR valve! :p Exhaust gas dosen't have enough oxygen left in it to burn again. (ideally NO oxygen if running at 14.7 A/F ratio) A turbo setup is almost like on a centrifugal SC, except they use the exhaust gases (instead of a belt) to spin the blower, which compresses air from a normal intake. Sorry, but a turbo at 5psi and a SC at 10 aren't even close to the same heat production.

check this out. http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turbo.htm

Enought of this! I got to go study for my exam! See what you get me into!

edit... ha! just saw your post pete. you're 100% right, so no flaming. :D I'd guess his intake temps are pushing about 200deg. A bit less with the water injection on.

[ 09. December 2003, 22:40: Message edited by: 10AE 2344 ]

PAW467

10th December 2003, 00:32

But then if we had tons of space a turbosuperchager would be uber...Heres some stuff to make your mind spin old school style!

http://rwebs.net/avhistory/opsman/geturbo/geturbo.htm

This about temp effects on a turbine(Turbosupercharger)
http://naca.larc.nasa.gov/reports/1946/naca-tn-1159/index.cgi?page0001.gif

RoadsterGuy99

10th December 2003, 07:31

Neo Masamune

10th December 2003, 09:44

Wheeeee! This is all fun :D All I know is I want more damned power, not that much more, but enough more to make my ride even more fun but still safe and drivable, so I'm now considering the VF stage 1.

-Neo

Tony Orlando

10th December 2003, 11:53

Argh. I need to proofread my long posts. I didn't mean the actual hot exhaust, just the heating of the air by the turbo housing sitting on a hot header. It was late.

I agree that a SC causes heat as well, but I still feel that the general consensus is that a SC is more thermally efficient.

We better keep this conversation for in person on Monday, otherwise the mods will shut this down or tell us to take it over to power mods. :D

looking forward to Monday, though. ;)

RoadsterGuy99

10th December 2003, 12:00

Dream2Race

10th December 2003, 12:29

Wow! My head is spinning. Did someone say turbocharger?

I don't care what you guys think, the sound of a blow-off valve is unbeatable! :D

PAW467

10th December 2003, 13:42

Originally posted by Dream2Race:
Did someone say turbocharger? :D No no.. get it right kiddies :D Lets all say it together Turbosupercharger.. LOL

Aye this stuff is related to the Southeast Fourm.. were talking about S/c in our area :p I'm not sure if the Moderator want to flip through 4 pages of our bantor :) or does he :)

Neo Masamune

10th December 2003, 15:26

Where we meeting up next week on Monday? Have we decided that Smokey Bonez is our official meeting spot? I vote yes! :D

Anybody up to going to Rockey's Replay with me tomorrow night? Should be overly crowded. I need my excersize on Dance Maniac.

-Neo

RoadsterGuy99

10th December 2003, 16:38

Tony - Take a look at this VF install. (http://www.miata.net/isclassifieds/pictures/35858.jpg) It's using the factory shock tower bar...

Chad is selling Enthuza! :sad:

[ 10. December 2003, 15:46: Message edited by: Roadster'99 ]

AutoXRacer

10th December 2003, 17:46

:eek: CONGRATS DAN!!!!!! :eek:

:D

kabel

10th December 2003, 17:58

Where we meeting up next week on Monday? Have we decided that Smokey Bonez is our official meeting spot? I vote yes! The Smokey Bones on 50 or in Waterford?
Have you guys been to Buffalo Wild Wings in Oviedo (across the street from Target – by Petsmart)? I know one of the owners and may be able to arrange something. Though it is essentially a sports bar and may be crowded with Monday night football fans.

I am totally cool with SB in Waterford since it is mere minuets from my house :) !

Neo Masamune

10th December 2003, 18:14

We'd love to make it some major wing place, the but problem is that we need to keep it somewhere central in the city. The Fashion Square mall area is pretty much DEAD center in Orlando, and the place we get most people to show up to.

Any takers for tomorrow night's trip to Rockeys?

-Neo

Tony Orlando

10th December 2003, 18:28

I'm looking for something to do tonight, actually. Mandy's out of town, and I'm bored. Call me if anybody's game. You all have the #.

And BTW, that's an 01-up model STB in that picture. I have no idea how they made it fit, though.... There's literally NO room there, even my modified RB STB bracket wouldn't work.

Maddog_fsu

10th December 2003, 19:14

Originally posted by Tony Orlando:
They do make the Greddy kits for NA's, (small, non-intercooled turbo.) The reason for no NB Greddy kit is the returnless fuel system in our cars. (Greddys use a rising rate Fuel pressure regulator in your return line to raise fuel pressure under boost.)

In theory; you could buy a Greddy kit for a late model NA (so the manifold would fit), plug in the powercard, and get a big-azz midpipe to reduce spoolup time, and you'd have your cheap NB turbo. In theory .

I should post this to the Power Mods forum so MarkP can tell me what an idiot I am. ;) GReddy does NOT make a kit that fits any 1.8L NA!!! If they did I would have one right now! The manifolds are different between the 1.6 and 1.8 blocks.

-Matt

PAW467

10th December 2003, 19:47

Tony Orlando

10th December 2003, 21:33

RoadsterGuy99

10th December 2003, 22:09

Karaoke Revolution Rulez! now to just get EyeToy :D

oops, sorry a bit off topic... well, i'm on permanent vacation, so to say... hoping that Sprint will call soon... :O

PAW467

10th December 2003, 22:16

AutoXRacer

11th December 2003, 11:39

AutoXRacer

11th December 2003, 11:46

10AE 2344

11th December 2003, 13:35

Originally posted by AutoXRacerMiata:
:eek: CONGRATS DAN!!!!!! :eek:

:D Thanks dude. :) Same to you! I don't think it's really gonna set in till January, when I look around and go, "Well, what now?" :p I haven't done any hardcore brain-wasting yet. Unless you count sleeping!

Monday evening (after graduation) I'll be at my apartment with family and assorted people. Kind of a mini-reception of sorts. You guys are all invited to come if you want to. Free food, drunken keg-stands by my grandparents, you know, all the usual stuff. :D If you're meeting at Waterford Smokey Bones, at least it's not out of the way. Drop by before the meeting, after, instead of :p . Whenever is cool.

Have you guys been to Buffalo Wild Wings in Oviedo (across the street from Target – by Petsmart)? I know one of the owners and may be able to arrange something. Though it is essentially a sports bar and may be crowded with Monday night football fans.
I forgot that place was there! The ones I've been to in Jacksonville RULE! We should try to meet up there at least once, even if it is a bit out of the way for some of us.

oops, sorry a bit off topic... Since when do we have a topic? :p

Neo Masamune

11th December 2003, 16:23

Originally posted by Roadster'99:
Karaoke Revolution Rulez! now to just get EyeToy :D

oops, sorry a bit off topic... well, i'm on permanent vacation, so to say... hoping that Sprint will call soon... :O Going for the Waterford Locations with Sunny? How many positions are available out there, ya think?

Hey, you got Revolutions!!! I want to play. Think you can head out to my neck of the woods tonight and bring it with ya? I can't leave the house this evening, got laundry and packing to do. Call me at work...or at home after 5:00.

-Neo

10AE 2344

11th December 2003, 16:34

RoadsterGuy99

12th December 2003, 16:27

kabel - was that you at the 3-way stop near the Ale House (university and 436)?? (today around 3pm -ish?)

Soo... Gentlemen and Ladies... what's going on?? Who died?? This thread just slowed down again... Weekend plans? Weekday plans? Lemme, check my schedule... OH WAIT! I'm solid FREE! ...

[ 12. December 2003, 15:46: Message edited by: Roadster'99 ]

Neo Masamune

12th December 2003, 16:31

Coulda called me last night, dude....

I'm going to Ft. Lauderdale for an even this weekend. Leaving Saturday, staying overnight, and returning on Sunday, mid afternoon.

This Monday's meet, are we doing Smokey Bonez?

-Neo

kabel

12th December 2003, 18:16

Did it have a big 'ol dent in the passenger side?! Mark , that is close to where I work but wasn’t me. There are a couple other red NA’s in this area. Mine has been covered and parked since the accident last weekend.
The insurance company came by and took pictures of it yesterday. So now I can clean it up and I am planning on changing the turret fluid and shift boots this weekend.

I gather from reading the posts you are graduating from UCF, congrats!

kabel

kabel

12th December 2003, 20:18

PAW467

12th December 2003, 21:07

Neo Masamune

12th December 2003, 21:20

How about drifting in the rain, Patrick? Check the weather reports lately? :D

-Neo

Tony Orlando

12th December 2003, 21:51

RoadsterGuy99

12th December 2003, 22:19

Tony Orlando

12th December 2003, 23:02

DCR-TRV19. Yes, it has night vision. Time to make my own "Paris Hilton" tapes! ;)

I'm goofing around with the image importing program as we speak, but the video gets all jerky when I upload it to the PC. Funny. It plays smooth as silk when hooked to the TV, but choppy on the PC. Still sweet.

AutoXRacer

13th December 2003, 00:41

Originally posted by kabel:
Any one know where I can buy some Redline MTL-90 locally? You can get it at:

Titan Motorsports
1714 N. Goldenrod Rd
Blg. A
407-277-8423
Titan Motorsports (http://www.titanmotorsports.com)

Its $9.00 a quart...

RoadsterGuy99

13th December 2003, 08:21

kabel

13th December 2003, 12:30

Originally posted by AutoXRacerMiata:
Originally posted by kabel:
Any one know where I can buy some Redline MTL-90 locally? You can get it at:

Titan Motorsports
1714 N. Goldenrod Rd
Blg. A
407-277-8423
Titan Motorsports (http://www.titanmotorsports.com)

Its $9.00 a quart... Oh yea. I forgot about Titan, thanks. Too bad they're not open on the weekends.

swansonhomesllc

13th December 2003, 17:44

PAW467

13th December 2003, 18:52

I will be on Vacation!! :D From Christmas till Jan 2nd. Enjoying the nice Frozen North lol..

--happy dance--

Maddog_fsu

13th December 2003, 20:55

Barebels

14th December 2003, 08:10

RoadsterGuy99

14th December 2003, 10:32

Bruce!

Hey, from time of order to delivery, how long did the HardDog take?? ;)

10AE 2344

14th December 2003, 15:48

Tony Orlando

14th December 2003, 17:55

Dream2Race

14th December 2003, 19:26

Originally posted by Neo Masamune:
How about drifting in the rain, Patrick? Check the weather reports lately? :D

-Neo You're a weenie, Neo. :p

Kudos to Pat for showing up in the terrential downpour! We had a good time! Gerald, Tony, was it the rain that scared you away?

Tony, how much was your camera? I'm looking to buy a good digi vid recorder and some other equipment. I have a fun idea for an autocross video production that will require external cams and mics. :D

[ 14. December 2003, 18:32: Message edited by: Dream2Race ]

Dream2Race

14th December 2003, 19:30

Originally posted by PAW467:
I will be on Vacation!! :D From Christmas till Jan 2nd. Enjoying the nice Frozen North lol..

--happy dance-- Me too! :D I'm flying out to Boston Xmas morning. Where ya going?

PAW467

14th December 2003, 22:14

PAW467

14th December 2003, 22:16

Aye Dan, This the grad party :D BTW, Congrats!

I guess I'll have to go read a few posts back to see whats going on.. with selling my house an all I've been preoccupied.

What are we doing Monday??

PAW467

15th December 2003, 17:40

10AE 2344

15th December 2003, 18:22

oyveychris

15th December 2003, 18:45

Dream2Race

15th December 2003, 18:47

Congrats Dan!

Chris, see Dan's post.

oyveychris

15th December 2003, 18:50

RoadsterGuy99

16th December 2003, 01:53

Barebels

16th December 2003, 07:15

RoadsterGuy99

16th December 2003, 08:04

Tony Orlando

16th December 2003, 21:56

RoadsterGuy99

16th December 2003, 22:10

Originally posted by Tony Orlando:
200th post!!! I am the new PW!! (Mark ;) ) LOL :D Ahh yes, but just post 200 for this thread ;)

aye PAW!! whacha da puhlams por dis furaday? Jolly Redman meetup @ zee wunderbar?

PAW467

16th December 2003, 23:21

Ayeup.. our little 'family' get together :D

Say 8ish at ze Vunder Bar.. I have a nice keg of Warsteine nice and cold!! (West Oaks Mall park on east side of Dillards)

RoadsterGuy99

17th December 2003, 09:38

RoadsterGuy99

17th December 2003, 13:50

PAW467

17th December 2003, 17:33

Yah today was pretty busy for me..

I was reading up in the NB fourm.. if this is correct there were only 960 Pure White units made for 2002 :eek: I wounder how many were Autos :D

Dream2Race

17th December 2003, 18:52

Me have class project to do tonight.

Miata likey cold air today. :D

Dream2Race

17th December 2003, 18:59

RoadsterGuy99

17th December 2003, 23:42

Originally posted by PAW467:
Yah today was pretty busy for me..

I was reading up in the NB fourm.. if this is correct there were only 960 Pure White units made for 2002 :eek: I wounder how many were Autos :D Well, we all know of at least 1... :p

I just saw a Durango commercial that's hillarious! A Durango conversation in the men's restroom!! "Yea, it's 7 inches longer..." LMAO!!

[ 17. December 2003, 23:13: Message edited by: Roadster'99 ]

RoadsterGuy99

18th December 2003, 10:23

PAW467

18th December 2003, 11:40

Neo Masamune

18th December 2003, 12:59

I'm not buying anything for awhile as I've just lost my job. Right before Christmas, too, ya know? Not only that, they hit me on a bad day of the week, to where I'm not going to get the paycheck I need to make my carpayment. So loosing the Miata might be the next thing in the near future.

I hated that place. And now I hate it even more. I mean, right before Christmas???? And the HR Manager said "Try to have a good holiday" right before I left. Oh I wanted to sock her in the mouth so bad.........

-Neo

PAW467

18th December 2003, 13:41

Well..dang.. Aaron that really does suck. Well, still come out on Friday night I'll buy ya a beer. It sounds like you'll need it.

:(

oyveychris

18th December 2003, 16:32

Tony Orlando

18th December 2003, 19:02

RoadsterGuy99

18th December 2003, 21:01

Tony Orlando

18th December 2003, 21:50

kabel

19th December 2003, 00:30

Aaron, sorry to hear about the job. That sucks. I'm sure you'll figure something out in time.
I know I’ve only had a chance to meet with you guys once so far; something always seems to come up. This week I had a miserable cold that had me out of commission since last Friday.

Anyway I just wanted to wish all of you Merry Holidays , my wife and I are flying up to Minnesota Monday for Christmas and new years.

Hope to meet up with you in the New Year! :)

kabel

PAW467

19th December 2003, 14:59

Aye all..Looks like I have my house sold!! :D Looks like I'm gonna be a bumb with Mark and Aaron.

Aaron.. can you call me pleaseeee.. I need to know the name of your Apt Complex..

RoadsterGuy99

19th December 2003, 15:42

PAW467

19th December 2003, 17:56

Dream2Race

19th December 2003, 18:42

Sorry to hear Aaron.

Congrats Mark! Maybe you can figure out why my phone doesn't work. Those fools over there can't.

Congrats Pat on sellin your house! Aren't you buyin a new one?

Anyone else? :D

Dream2Race

20th December 2003, 00:05

10AE 2344

20th December 2003, 01:12

Thanks Matt :D Lotsa good pics.

One thing puzzles me. If you click on specs it gives you a PDF with all kinds of info. Near the bottom it gives the gear ratios. (6speed) It lists the final drive ratio as 4.1. :confused: Think this is an error? Or are they really shortening the already short gearing? :eek:

Is it a full moon or something? Seems to be an awful lot of commotion going on. Jobs, houses, graduations, etc. Sheesh!

RoadsterGuy99

20th December 2003, 02:28

RoadsterGuy99

20th December 2003, 02:40

oh yea... forgot to say, I'm no longer from Bumsville, FL :) I gotz a new location now ;)

Monday night meet!? Where at? Was Gator's out in Ocoee good? Maybe there again? Or the more "central" one near 436 and Hoffner?? Or the other more "central" 436 and Aloma?? Or back to ROOTs at Waterford? Just some suggestions... oh if its Gators, hope there isn't a FL game scheduled...

Tony Orlando

20th December 2003, 17:20

RoadsterGuy99

20th December 2003, 20:54

Tony Orlando

20th December 2003, 21:48

Well that's perfect because I am doing absolutely nothing tomorrow. Call me and we'll hook up. You gotta check out Manhunt, it's pretty sweet.

My Dad told me today he was going to buy me a polished valve cover for Xmas, but nobody had one in stock. :ohno: Dang it.

RoadsterGuy99

21st December 2003, 09:41

Hey Neil! - Are you still in town? Coming out this Monday night? I still want to get the chance to get those pictures! I got a nice little, ok well not so little, package that's scheduled to arrive on Tues. ;)

Aye Tony - Did you send a TM to me last night? Didn't get it till about 10:30-ish... :( Well, I'm up getting ready to do a little housework, I'll call ya in the afternoon.

Maddog_fsu

21st December 2003, 17:00

bkn

21st December 2003, 18:36

Mark, You missed me again, we never seem to attend the same Monday night meets. I am back in the frosty, frigid north. Planning to get back in town second week of Jan. 04.

Everyone have a warm X-mas.

neil

RoadsterGuy99

21st December 2003, 20:56

Originally posted by bkn2001:
Mark, You missed me again, we never seem to attend the same Monday night meets. I am back in the frosty, frigid north. Planning to get back in town second week of Jan. 04.

Everyone have a warm X-mas.

neil ahh... Well, looks like it's winging it time! :ohno: I've been searching all over for pics to help out. Hope it's good enough! When you get back, if everything goes well, you'l have an HD twin! :D

Hope you stay WARM! BTW, what is the temp there??

oyveychris

22nd December 2003, 11:56

Neo Masamune

22nd December 2003, 12:17

Bumped into Mark at Rockey's yesterday, I think we decided to give the Waterford Lakes Gator's Dockside another go again. Hell, if it's packed, we've always got Smokey Bonez right down the street.

Everybody game?

-Neo

RoadsterGuy99

22nd December 2003, 17:47

my my it's slow... Neo says Gator's @ Waterford.

Be there! :p

Desabrir

22nd December 2003, 18:54

Hey guys

Just thought I'd let ya'll know I'll be hosting an Orlando Miata meet sometime in January. You guys are welcome to show up. PM if you have any questions.

:cool: Adam

Tony Orlando

22nd December 2003, 23:31

RoadsterGuy99

22nd December 2003, 23:55

Tony Orlando

23rd December 2003, 00:26

Desabrir

23rd December 2003, 00:34

Originally posted by Tony Orlando:
Why PM, let us know the details here! :D lol ok...

Well it's gonna be at my old neighbor's house and limited to fluid changes or sorts like that. I'm gonn try to tackle my speedo cable, so stuff like that. Of course Bob is pretty strict on the insurance stuff. So if you haven't paid dues you know what ya can't do. I got yelled at :) .

I haven't finalized a date yet, but it will be sometime in january.

:cool: Adam

Dream2Race

23rd December 2003, 01:46

RoadsterGuy99

23rd December 2003, 20:35

Tony Orlando

23rd December 2003, 22:22

Neo Masamune

24th December 2003, 10:15

LOL.

-Neo

oyveychris

24th December 2003, 11:28

RoadsterGuy99

24th December 2003, 20:01

Dream2Race

24th December 2003, 21:35

Tony Orlando

25th December 2003, 18:50

Roadster'99's Girl

25th December 2003, 20:04